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The Woman She Became to Survive Him
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You left the relationship. Things are better. So why don’t you feel like yourself yet?
Maybe you still apologize before anyone is upset. You read the room the second you walk into it. You edit what you’re about to say, struggle to ask for help, make yourself smaller, or feel responsible the moment someone else’s mood changes.
In this episode of Pattern Breakers Collective, Lisa explores something that often gets missed when we talk about healing after emotional abuse, coercive control, narcissistic abuse, and unhealthy relationships:
Maybe you didn’t simply lose yourself in the relationship.
Maybe you hid yourself and built a version of you who knew how to survive it.
That version learned to people-please, apologize, anticipate moods, stay hyper-independent, shut down emotions, and make herself smaller because those behaviors served a purpose. They helped you navigate an environment where being fully yourself didn’t always feel safe.
But what happens when the relationship ends and those survival patterns don’t?
We talk about six ways the survival version of you may still be showing up, including the apology reflex, hypervigilance, people-pleasing, making yourself small, over-functioning, emotional shutdown, and hyper-independence, and why behaviors that once protected you can begin costing you when the danger is gone.
We also talk about a kind of grief women rarely get permission to name: grieving the woman you were before the relationship changed you. Healing isn’t necessarily about getting her back. It may be about discovering who you are now, with everything you’ve survived, learned, and finally understand.
And coming back to yourself usually isn’t one huge, empowering moment. It happens in small ones: saying what you actually think, catching an unnecessary apology, asking for help, allowing yourself to feel something instead of shutting it down, and making a decision based on what you want without immediately calculating someone else’s reaction.
You didn’t lose yourself. You hid yourself.
And the woman you became to survive did her job.
Now you get to discover who you are when survival is no longer the assignment.
🎙️ Pattern Breakers Collective with Lisa Lucia
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She got out. Things are better. Objectively better. She knows that. She says that. But she keeps catching herself doing things that she doesn't understand. Apologizing before anyone is upset with her. Editing what she's about to say before she says it. Running it through some internal filter, checking it for danger before it ever leaves her mouth. Bracing herself every time she hears someone's footsteps come down the hall. Even though it's her sister. Even though she lives somewhere new now. Making herself smaller in rooms where nobody is asking her to be smaller. Not saying what she actually thinks. Not because she's afraid of the other person, but because the habit of not saying it has become automatic, like breathing, like something her body does without being asked. She thought she would feel better when she got out. She doesn't. And she doesn't know why. Here's why. She didn't just lose herself inside of that relationship. She built a replacement, a version of herself that was easier, quieter, safer to be. A version that didn't cause problems, didn't make things worse, didn't give anyone a reason to blow up. A version that kept her alive, emotionally, and sometimes literally inside of an environment that punished her for being fully herself. That woman did her job and she was good at it. And she's still running the show. Today's episode is about her and about the woman who's been waiting underneath her this whole time. Hi, I'm Lisa, and this is Pattern Breakers Collective, the podcast where we talk honestly about the patterns that shaped us, the ones that nearly buried us and what it actually takes to break them. As usual, quick note before we get into it: when I talk about the person causing harm, I'll use he. That's because that's my own experience talking, and it's where most of this community lives. But I recognize that everything I'm saying today still applies across any dynamic, any relationship structure, any configuration. If your person wasn't a he, this is still yours. Now, we've talked on this show before about losing yourself inside a relationship. We've talked about the slow disappearing, the way you stop wearing certain things, stop saying certain things, stop being around certain people. We've talked about looking at a photo of yourself from five years ago and barely recognizing the woman in it. Today, I want to take that one layer deeper. Because what I haven't fully talked about yet is this. It wasn't just that you lost yourself. You actively built someone new to take your place. You created a whole operating system designed to keep you safe in a specific environment. And that operating system is so well built, so practiced, so deeply grooved into how you move through the world that it keeps running even when the original threat is completely gone. That's what we're getting into today. What that replacement version looks like, why she's still here, and what coming back to yourself actually requires. Not the inspirational quote version, the real version. Let's go. It's real, it describes something true, but I think lost makes it sound like an accident. Like she was walking through a parking lot and her sense of self just fell out of her pocket somewhere. That's not what happened. What happened was much more deliberate than that. Even if it didn't feel deliberate, even if there's no conscious decision, because here's the thing about human beings: we are remarkably good at figuring out what a situation requires of us, and then becoming that. When you're in an environment where your authentic self creates problems, where your real opinions cause blow ups, where your actual needs get dismissed or mocked or used against you, where being fully yourself is somehow always wrong, you adapt. You have to. That's not weakness, that's intelligence. That's your brain doing exactly what it's supposed to do, which is to keep you safe. So you didn't lose yourself, you hid yourself, you put her somewhere safe, and you sent someone else out to deal with the situation. The woman you became to survive him was smart. She knew what to say and what not to say. She knew how to read a room in about four seconds. She knew how to make herself pleasant and agreeable and non-threatening and useful. She knew how to de-escalate before things got bad. She knew how to absorb things and keep moving. She was incredibly capable and incredibly exhausting and incredibly effective at her specific job. Her job was survival and she was good at it. The problem, and this is the part that doesn't get talked about enough, is that she doesn't just step down when the threat is gone, because she doesn't know that the threat is gone. She's been in charge for so long that she's not waiting for permission. She just keeps doing what she was built to do. She keeps scanning for danger. She keeps managing every interaction. She keeps editing and apologizing and bracing and shrinking. Not because you're still in danger, because she doesn't know how to be anything else. You didn't lose yourself. You hid yourself very effectively, very intelligently, as an act of survival. The woman you became to get through it was good at her job. The problem is she never got the memo that the job is done. Now I want to take a minute with you and just be straight about what actually happens to a person when they live in an environment of ongoing emotional pressure. Not in clinical language, just what it actually does. When something you do consistently causes a painful reaction, when saying what you think leads to punishment, when expressing a need leads to it being weaponized, when being emotional leads to being called crazy, when being happy leads to someone finding a way to flatten it, your brain starts making adjustments. Not right away, it takes a while. At first, you still push back, you still say things, you still try, but over time, the math changes. Your brain does a very quiet cost-benefit analysis and starts steering you away from the things that have historically produced pain without you deciding to let it, without you even fully noticing what's happening. Suddenly, you're not saying what you think. Not because you decided to stop, but because the decision happened so far below the surface that you missed it. Suddenly, you're monitoring his mood before you bring something up. Not because you're a pushover, because your nervous system learned that timing mattered and missing it was expensive. Suddenly, you're apologizing for things that aren't your fault. Not because you're a doormat, but because apologizing was the fastest way to end something. And ending it fast was survival. Here's a thing that I think is really important to understand. This is not a personality flaw. This isn't you being weak. This is your nervous system doing an incredibly sophisticated job of adapting to its environment. The same capacity that makes humans able to thrive in wildly different circumstances, the same flexibility that makes us the most adaptable species on the planet is what allows a person to reshape themselves to fit a harmful situation. The tragedy isn't that it happened. The tragedy is that the reshape outlasts the situation that required it. Because your nervous system doesn't automatically receive a notification that things have changed. It can't just reset. The patterns that kept you safe for years, the hypervigilance, the people pleasing, the constant self-editing, the emotional shutdown, those all get baked in. They become the default. And then you leave, or the relationship changes, or the threat is genuinely gone, and those patterns are still running, still doing their job in a world that no longer needs them to. Okay, I want to get specific now because I think this is where the episode either really lands or it doesn't. And I want it to land. So I'm gonna describe six things. Six specific ways the woman she became to survive him shows up in her behavior, in her body, in her daily life. And I want you to notice which ones you recognize in yourself, not as a judgment, as information. Number one, the apology reflex. She apologizes before anyone is upset with her. Someone bumps into her on the street and she says sorry. She asks for something completely reasonable and immediately follows with, I'm sorry, I know this is a lot. Someone seems slightly off and she starts mentally reviewing what she might have done. She says sorry the way some people say um, reflexively, automatically, because silence feels more dangerous than preemptive apology. Here's where that came from. In the relationship, apology was the fastest off-ramp. It ended things, it reduced the temperature. It didn't matter whether she'd actually done something wrong, it worked. So she started using it constantly as protection, as a way of taking herself off the table before anyone could put her there. And now that habit runs whether or not there's anything to apologize for. Number two, the monitoring habit. She reads every room she walks into. She notices immediately if someone's energy is off. She can feel a shift in someone's mood across a crowded space before anyone else has registered it. She watches people's faces while they talk, tracking microexpressions, looking for signs that something is wrong. She is always about three seconds ahead, anticipating because in her previous life, missing something early meant paying for it later. And here's the thing: in a lot of contexts, this looks like emotional intelligence, and it is. She is genuinely perceptive. But there's a significant difference between being perceptive because you're curious and connected, and being perceptive because you were trained to scan for threats at all times. One is a gift, the other is exhausting, and the second one never turns off. Number three, the smallness. She takes up less space than the situation actually calls for. At the dinner table, she lets everyone else order first and takes what's left. In meetings, she has the answer and waits to see if anyone else says it first. In conversation, she finds herself steering toward the other person's experience, not her own. She minimizes, she qualifies, she adds, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, to the end of statements that she's actually completely sure about. Because being too much was a problem. Being too confident, too opinionated, too present, too sure of herself, all of that caused friction in the relationship. So she dialed it back and then back a little more. And then she kept the dial there, even in rooms where being fully herself would be completely safe. Number four, the competence shield. She is always relentlessly, impressively capable. And she uses that capability as armor. If I'm useful, I can't be attacked. If I'm needed, I have value. If I handle everything, the logistics, the details, the 10 balls in the air at once, then I am doing enough, being enough, earning enough of my place that no one can ever come for me. This one is sneaky because it looks like strength. And in a lot of ways, she is strong. But underneath the capability is a belief that she may not be fully aware of, that her worth is conditional, that she has to keep performing to justify her presence, that the moment she stops being impressive, someone will finally see that she's not enough. She didn't always believe that. That belief was installed. Number five, the emotional shutdown. She knows how to not feel things. She's gotten very, very good at it. Someone says something that should hurt and she notices it from a slight distance, like watching it happen to someone else. Something wonderful happens and she feels the edge of it, but can't quite get to the middle of it. She cries in her car on the way home from places because somehow that's the only spot where the feelings can get through. Feeling things was dangerous. Feeling things in front of him got her called crazy, dramatic, too sensitive. Feeling things led to conversations she wasn't able to win. Feeling things made her vulnerable in a situation where vulnerability was immediately turned into a weapon. So she learned to delay it, put it in a drawer, handle the situation first, and deal with the emotions later. And later became never. And now she doesn't even fully know what she feels half the time because the shutdown is so automatic that she doesn't notice herself doing it. And number six, the hyper-independence. She does not ask for help. Not really, not in a way that actually lets people in. She'll accept help with tasks, logistical and practical things, but the deeper stuff, she figures it out alone. She handles it alone. She makes the decision alone, cries about it alone, processes it alone, and then comes out the other side and says she's fine because needing things was used against her. Asking for help was evidence that she couldn't handle it. Vulnerability was used as ammunition. Depending on him meant he had something over her. So she made herself not need anything from anyone. She became self-contained by necessity. And now, even in relationships where it's safe to need people, she can't quite do it. Not all the way. Because some part of her is still waiting for the ass to be turned into a problem. Every single one of these things was a solution before it became a problem. She didn't develop them out of weakness, she developed them out of necessity. The apology reflex kept the peace. The monitoring habit kept her safe. The smallness reduced the friction. The competence shield gave her value. The shutdown protected her. The independence kept her from being controlled. These were adaptive. They worked and now they're working in a world that doesn't need them and costing her more than they're giving her. So this is the part I really want you to sit with because I think it's the part that changes things. Why is she still doing these things? You got out. Things are genuinely different now. Why is the survival self still running the show? Here's the honest answer. Your nervous system doesn't update on a schedule. It doesn't get a notification that the danger is over. It doesn't do a quarterly review and decide to let some things go. It learns slowly through experience, through accumulated evidence, repeated over time, that the old thread is gone and the new environment is safe. Think about it this way. If you burned your hand on a stove as a kid, you would probably still pull your hand back faster than other people when you reach over a burner. Even though the current burner might be off, even though you're an adult with perfectly good judgment about whether something is hot. Your body remembers and it acts on that memory before your brain has finished processing. Years of living in an unpredictable environment, years of learning that your authentic self creates problems, that calm can shift to explosive without much warning, and that the thing that was fine yesterday may not be fine today. That doesn't just clear up because the environment changed. It lives in your body, it lives in your reflexes, it lives in the patterns that you develop to manage it. And here's what makes this even harder. A lot of the time, those patterns feel like you, like they're just who you are. Because you've been doing them for so long that the original version of yourself, the one who didn't do all those things, is just a distant memory. Maybe not even a memory, maybe just a sense that something is missing. This adapted version is still here because she doesn't know that she's allowed to leave. Not because you're broken, not because you're stuck, but because that's how nervous systems work. And it takes time and repetition and safety, real, felt experience safety to teach it something new. And I want to say something really specific to the women who are frustrated with themselves about this. The ones who are thinking, I have been out for two years. I have been doing therapy. I understand what happened. Why am I still doing this? Because understanding something intellectually and your nervous system actually believing it are two completely different things. You can know with absolute certainty in your head that you are safe and your body can still be running the old program. That is not a failure of understanding. That is just how deep this goes. The knowing has to become felt. And felt takes longer than understood every time. That's not a character flaw. That's just neuroscience. And I think it helps to know that. It's the grief, not the grief for the relationship. Most women have done some version of that, or they're in the middle of it and they know what that is. I mean the grief for the self, the version of you that existed before, the one who laughed differently and moved differently and took up space differently and trusted herself and didn't think twice before saying what she actually thought. Because here's the truth that nobody says out loud. You cannot go back to her. That woman, the before version, doesn't exist anymore either. She was shaped by a life that is gone. She had experiences and a relationship with the world that you don't have now. And you can't unknow what you know. You can't unexperience what you've been through. You can't step back into who you were before it. And that is a real loss, not a dramatic one, not the kind that gets acknowledged at a funeral or a crisis hotline. The quiet kind, the kind that you feel when you're doing something completely ordinary and you suddenly remember a version of yourself that you haven't been in years, and the ache of that is completely disproportionate to the moment. A lot of women get confused by this grief because they think I should be relieved. I got out, things are better, why am I still sad? And the answer is because you lost something real. The relationship took something away from you. Time, years, parts of yourself that you may still be piecing back together. And that deserves to be crieved, not in a dramatic way, not wallowed in, just acknowledged. Because that's how you actually move through it instead of around it. What you're rebuilding is not the same person you were before. You are building a new version, someone who has the awareness that you've developed, who understands things the before version didn't, who has survived something that required her to become stronger than she knew that she could be, and who also slowly gets to become softer again, less defended, more herself. She doesn't look exactly like who you were before. She looks like who you're becoming, and that's okay. Actually, that's pretty extraordinary. The before version of you was shaped by a life that no longer exists. You can miss her, you should miss her. And then you have to let her go. Because what you're building now is something she never could have been. She hasn't been through this yet. You have and that changes you in ways that are not only losses. Okay, can I say something real about the healing journey narrative? Because I actually think a lot of it is garbage. Not the healing part. The healing part is real and it matters. But the way it gets sold, the journaling and the bubble bass and the, well, you just have to love yourself, pep talks, and the three-step processes to reclaim your authentic self, those versions are a fantasy. And I think it does real harm to women who are trying to do real work because it makes them feel like they're doing it wrong when the reality is just harder and slower and more frustrating than anyone prepared them for. So let me tell you what coming back to yourself actually looks like. It's mostly pretty boring and uncomfortable, and it takes longer than you want it to. It looks like noticing the apology reflex before you say sorry for something you didn't do, and then choosing not to say it. Even though not saying it feels uncomfortable, even though some part of you is waiting for something bad to happen because you didn't apologize. You do it anyway, and nothing bad happens. And you file that away, and your nervous system gets a tiny piece of new information. It looks like saying what you actually think in a low-stakes conversation and waiting to see if the world ends. It doesn't, and you file that away too. It looks like asking for help with something and letting someone actually help you, not managing them while they help you, not doing it yourself anyway because it's faster, actually letting someone in and noticing that you survived it. It looks like feeling something, actually letting yourself feel it, not putting it in a drawer and discovering that you can, that the feeling doesn't destroy you, that it moves through and it passes, and that you're still standing on the other side. It looks like making a decision based on what you want, without running it through a filter of how someone else is going to react and noticing that you were allowed to do that. None of these moments are dramatic. None of them are the lightning bolt of self-actualization. They're just reps, small behavioral reps done consistently that slowly teach your nervous system the old rules don't apply here anymore. You can be more of yourself here. You are safe. And I want to name one more thing because I think it's important. Therapy is real and it matters, not couples therapy. We've talked about why that can make things worse in situations with coercive control. Individual therapy with someone who understands trauma and abuse dynamics is genuinely valuable for this work because some of what that adapted version of you built runs deep enough that it needs a trained person to help you find it. There is no shame in that. There is no prize for trying to do this entirely on your own. The work isn't about becoming fearless. It's about learning to act like yourself even when you're scared. And doing that enough times that scared starts to feel different, less like danger and more like unfamiliar. And unfamiliar, over time, becomes familiar. That's what coming back looks like. Ordinary moments, one at a time, that slowly add up to a woman who trusts herself again. So I want to leave you with something before you go. The woman you became to survive him, the one who apologizes reflexively, who monitors every room, who makes herself small, who keeps everyone at arm's length, who knows how not to feel things, who is so incredibly competent because competence kept her safe. She's not a failure. She's not damaged. She is not proof that something is fundamentally broken about you. She is evidence that you are someone who figured out how to survive in a genuinely hard situation, that you are adaptable and intelligent and resourceful in ways that a lot of people will never have to discover about themselves. She did her job. And now you get to do something she never got to do. You get to put her down. Not because she was wrong, not because she failed, because the situation that required her is over. And the person underneath her, the one who's been waiting quietly this whole time, she's still there. She didn't leave. She's been patient, probably more patient than she should have had to be, but she's there. You might not remember exactly what she looks like. That's okay. You're gonna find out. Not all at once, not in a single conversation or a single episode or a single good week, in moments, in small choices, in the times that you say what you actually think and the world doesn't end, in the times that you let someone be kind to you and you actually let it land. In the times that you catch the apology halfway to your mouth and then you swallow it back down and stand in the discomfort and find out that just like I'm telling you, you're gonna find out that you are completely, entirely, actually safe. She might feel unfamiliar at first, she might feel louder than you're used to, she might have opinions that make you a little nervous, she might want things, she might not apologize right away, she might take up more room than you've been allowing. Let her. That's the point. That's where she lives in those moments. Go find her. Send it to the woman you know who's been out for a little while but still doesn't feel like herself. Tell her there's a name for it. Tell her it makes sense. Tell her she's not broken, she's just still running an old software, and that's something that she can actually work with. If you haven't left yet, if you're still in, still trying to figure out what you're going to do, I want you to know this episode was for you too, because understanding what's happening to you and being able to name it is not nothing. It's actually one of the first things that has to happen before anything else can. And if you're ready to do this work for real, to actually understand your patterns, to rebuild your self-trust, and to stop handing the keys to the version of you that was built to survive someone who is no longer in your life, that's what Pattern Breakers Collective is for. My 12-week program and options to work with me individually are all on my socials or at patternbreakerscollective.com. Reach out anytime. And finally, this show is free. It's always going to be free because the women who need it most are often the ones who can't pay for it. If this podcast has meant something to you, if it's given you language for something that you were already feeling or made you feel less alone in something that you've been carrying quietly, the support link in the show notes is one of the most direct ways that you can help keep this going. Whatever you're able to give makes it possible to keep showing up here every week. Until next time, you didn't lose yourself. You hid yourself very effectively, very intelligently, as an act of survival. And now she's done her job. She can step aside.